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send our weak economy plunging back into a recession. president obama says he remains optimistic, but he says no bargain could be reached in congress, then congress must vote on his back up plan to block taxes for anybody making less than $250,000 a year. chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel has more. mike, you just got new details 23r* mitch mcconnell. what are they? >> that's right. discussions have been taking place all day. both sides have been trading paper, ideas and that talks continue. we understand legislative staff will continue working into this evening. meanwhile, huer is a fair and balanced look at where things stand. >> i do think that something will happen over the next few days relative to the revenue piece. hopefully we can rescue most americans from a tax increase. but what we haven't dealt with again is the spending component. jay we just can't afford -- >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. keeping it that way means folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. the housing market is healing, but that could
this to be possible. >> sequestration is designed to be painful. a penalty congress imposed on itself last year when the super economy failed to find $1.2 trillion of cuts to live w half are those are directed at the pentagon but president obama said today said the cuts can be offset by raising taxes on the rich. >> we have raised revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, the automatic spending cuts and also have a better outcome for our economy long term. >> senator graham thinks it's possible to find $600 billion in cuts elsewhere to spare the defense department for the next decade but a bipartisan agreement probably can't be reached until february or march. >> thank you. >>> joining us now more on this, the military cuts, jack keene, retired 4 star general. thank you for being with us tonight. >> glad to be here. >> how do you get the job done of protecting the country with fewer resources? >> well, it becomes difficult. we've already had a $480 billion cut that's taken place in the defense department. most experts who look
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